I received my weekly email from Lenovo's IBM Sharholder program this morning and it contains the best offers I have seen in several weeks. They are promoting the new S12 Netbook with the ION chipset for just $449.
They are also providing a solid offer on the T400s which they promote as the thinnest (0.83"), lightest (starting at 3.9 lbs) T Series ever.
The email states there are only 400 available for each of the S12 and T400s.
Here are the S12 details:
Lenovo.com List Price $649 Shareholder Price: $449 after coupon
Go to www.Lenovo.com/spp (You have to cut and paste the url in your browser) You will need to create an account...so click on the "Create Account" link and follow the instructions......a password is mailed to you within a minute or two (in my experience); Login and go to the S12 Series page and then click the IdeaPad S12 line; Add 29595FU to your cart Apply coupon USXSPPS125FU to arrive at the $449 price.
Specs: - Intel ATOM Processor N270 ( 1.60GHz) - Windows 7 Home Premium - NVIDIA ION with Full HD video and HDMI - 12.1 " Display - 2 GB RAM - 250GB HDD - 6 Cell Battery - 2.87 lbs.
Here are the T400s details:
Lenovo.com List Price $1745 Shareholder Price: $1099 after coupon
Website access instructions same as above Go to T Series Page and select T400s Select the first model shown (list price of $1745) Once in the shopping cart apply coupon USXSPPT400S This seems to drive a further discount of $260 above and beyond the normal Shareholder price.
Specs: - Intel Core 2 Duo SP9400 (2.4GHz) - Windows 7 Pro - 14.1 " LED Display - 2 GB RAM - DVD Burner
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Good Deal. I've been doing waiting for a sale at the HP store on the Mini 311 Series, HP's similar ION netbook.
The HP 311's base price $399, and I'm hoping for a 40% off Black Friday deal like they had last year.
The spec differences between the two models are: Diplays: The Lenovo's is a 12.1" 1280x800 vs. the HP's 11.6" 1366x768 Weight: The Lenovo claims 2.87 lbs, the HP 3.22 lbs
Other than that, both models can be customized on their manufacturer's sites to be identical. Personally, I don't have strong feelings about either brand's quality (though I understand that Lenovo has a better reputation), so I'll probably wait for a killer deal on the HP.
lenord said:Good Deal. I've been doing waiting for a sale at the HP store on the Mini 311 Series, HP's similar ION netbook. ditto. And i'll have to agree with you to continue waiting for a sale at HP. besides physical specs, the Lenovo S12 cannot be customized as much as the HP Mini 311 can be.
Allow me to elaborate by customizing them as closely as possible. (before discounts) Lenovo IdeaPad S12 $649.00 ATOM N270, Win7, 3GB 667 DDR2, 320GB HD, Wireless B/G, Bluetooth HP Mini 311 $589.99 ATOM N270, Win7, 3GB ??? DDR2, 320GB HD, Wireless B/G, Bluetooth
Based on that alone, assuming the HP Mini 311 uses 667Mhz memory, that's alot cheaper. Even if HP uses 533Mhz, it wouldn't account for the $60 difference. BTW, the HP comes with a mini webcam included in the price.
The Lenovo's specs are pretty much standard as above. Except for a 250GB option w/2GB RAM for $50 less. HP allows you to use WindowsXP, 1-3GB RAM, 160GB or 250GB RAM, Wireless N, w/ or w/o Bluetooth. If you're worried about warranty, Lenovo's price includes 1 year, while HP's warranty is optional.
Because of the larger freedom to choose my components, I'm already siding with HP. The price break against Lenovo is just extra good news. my personal configuration? base price ($399.99) ATOM N280 (+$25) Win7 (+$50) 3GB (+$55) 160GB (standard) Wireless N w/o bluetooth(+$25)
total before shipping: $554.99
if HP eventually has as good discounts as Lenovo, that's $355. jackpot. even $400 would be win.
edit: keep in mind my opinions are based on specs and price alone. i have not tried either netbooks so i suggest reading performance reviews on them. i intend to do the same.
Message edited by: fobsquad on 2009-11-04 15:37:05 CST
I have also been holding out for an HP. Do the 311 with Windows 7 include the FULl NVIDIA ion. I know there is an ION-LE which is not direct 10 compatible and would be a problem for Windows 7. When you guys think there will be a sale on the HP 311??
Would this be a good lappie for a college student studying interior design? I need to pick one up for a relative. Are the Lenova's better than HP or Dell?
Just a couple of corrections to what you said about the HP Mini. I was one of the people who tried to get the HP Mini with Windows XP and 3GB RAM.
However, you can ONLY get: Windows XP with 1GB RAM (not even 2 GB) Win 7 with 3 GB (which costs $55 more for RAM + $50 more for Win 7).
I also had a couple of other key differences as to why I wanted the HP Mini 311 vs Lenovo S12: N280 processor vs N270 processor - comaparison linky DDR3 RAM in HP Mini vs DDR2 RAM in S12
I tried using HP EPP, also called up & mailed their sales folks and pleaded with them to let me buy it with XP and 3GB RAM since I did not want to pay the "Windows 7" tax of $50.
However, they shot me down. I politely told the rep that I was choosing another brand, and walked away.
I am begining to hate HP for what they keep doing to us FWers.
fobsquad said:lenord said:Good Deal. I've been doing waiting for a sale at the HP store on the Mini 311 Series, HP's similar ION netbook. ditto. And i'll have to agree with you to continue waiting for a sale at HP. besides physical specs, the Lenovo S12 cannot be customized as much as the HP Mini 311 can be.
Allow me to elaborate by customizing them as closely as possible. (before discounts) Lenovo IdeaPad S12 $649.00 ATOM N270, Win7, 3GB 667 DDR2, 320GB HD, Wireless B/G, Bluetooth HP Mini 311 $589.99 ATOM N270, Win7, 3GB ??? DDR2, 320GB HD, Wireless B/G, Bluetooth
Based on that alone, assuming the HP Mini 311 uses 667Mhz memory, that's alot cheaper. Even if HP uses 533Mhz, it wouldn't account for the $60 difference. BTW, the HP comes with a mini webcam included in the price.
The Lenovo's specs are pretty much standard as above. Except for a 250GB option w/2GB RAM for $50 less. HP allows you to use WindowsXP, 1-3GB RAM, 160GB or 250GB RAM, Wireless N, w/ or w/o Bluetooth. If you're worried about warranty, Lenovo's price includes 1 year, while HP's warranty is optional.
Because of the larger freedom to choose my components, I'm already siding with HP. The price break against Lenovo is just extra good news. my personal configuration? base price ($399.99) ATOM N280 (+$25) Win7 (+$50) 3GB (+$55) 160GB (standard) Wireless N w/o bluetooth(+$25)
total before shipping: $554.99
if HP eventually has as good discounts as Lenovo, that's $355. jackpot. even $400 would be win.
edit: keep in mind my opinions are based on specs and price alone. i have not tried either netbooks so i suggest reading performance reviews on them. i intend to do the same.
Message edited by: prestidigitator on 2009-11-04 18:27:38 CST
That's not something they choose. MS won't let them sell an XP laptop with more then 1 GB. Period.
prestidigitator said:Just a couple of corrections to what you said about the HP Mini. I was one of the people who tried to get the HP Mini with Windows XP and 3GB RAM.
However, you can ONLY get: Windows XP with 1GB RAM (not even 2 GB) Win 7 with 3 GB (which costs $55 more for RAM + $50 more for Win 7).
I also had a couple of other key differences as to why I wanted the HP Mini 311 vs Lenovo S12: N280 processor vs N270 processor - comaparison linky DDR3 RAM in HP Mini vs DDR2 RAM in S12
I tried using HP EPP, also called up & mailed their sales folks and pleaded with them to let me buy it with XP and 3GB RAM since I did not want to pay the "Windows 7" tax of $50.
However, they shot me down. I politely told the rep that I was choosing another brand, and walked away.
I am begining to hate HP for what they keep doing to us FWers.
fobsquad said:lenord said:Good Deal. I've been doing waiting for a sale at the HP store on the Mini 311 Series, HP's similar ION netbook. ditto. And i'll have to agree with you to continue waiting for a sale at HP. besides physical specs, the Lenovo S12 cannot be customized as much as the HP Mini 311 can be.
Allow me to elaborate by customizing them as closely as possible. (before discounts) Lenovo IdeaPad S12 $649.00 ATOM N270, Win7, 3GB 667 DDR2, 320GB HD, Wireless B/G, Bluetooth HP Mini 311 $589.99 ATOM N270, Win7, 3GB ??? DDR2, 320GB HD, Wireless B/G, Bluetooth
Based on that alone, assuming the HP Mini 311 uses 667Mhz memory, that's alot cheaper. Even if HP uses 533Mhz, it wouldn't account for the $60 difference. BTW, the HP comes with a mini webcam included in the price.
The Lenovo's specs are pretty much standard as above. Except for a 250GB option w/2GB RAM for $50 less. HP allows you to use WindowsXP, 1-3GB RAM, 160GB or 250GB RAM, Wireless N, w/ or w/o Bluetooth. If you're worried about warranty, Lenovo's price includes 1 year, while HP's warranty is optional.
Because of the larger freedom to choose my components, I'm already siding with HP. The price break against Lenovo is just extra good news. my personal configuration? base price ($399.99) ATOM N280 (+$25) Win7 (+$50) 3GB (+$55) 160GB (standard) Wireless N w/o bluetooth(+$25)
total before shipping: $554.99
if HP eventually has as good discounts as Lenovo, that's $355. jackpot. even $400 would be win.
edit: keep in mind my opinions are based on specs and price alone. i have not tried either netbooks so i suggest reading performance reviews on them. i intend to do the same.
I promise you no DX10 support would NOT be a problem for Win7. It MAY be a show stopper if you have to have a particular feature, but I can't see it impacting much other than some minor Aero effects. You don't have enough CPU to game seriously anyhow. I ran Win7 beta and RC on a SIS760 Mirage2 chip. Sure, it gets a 1.0 for video on WEI (can you get less than that? ), but it runs great.
That said, I'm getting the 311 with full Ion and N280, 1GB with XP. It's stupid you can't get 3GB with XP.
Zan86 said:I have also been holding out for an HP. Do the 311 with Windows 7 include the FULl NVIDIA ion. I know there is an ION-LE which is not direct 10 compatible and would be a problem for Windows 7. When you guys think there will be a sale on the HP 311??
Message edited by: dbphillips on 2009-11-04 23:37:50 CST
I'm seriously considering jumping on the S12 deal. I like the fact that it comes with a full keyboard as opposed to most other 90+% netbook keyboards out there and a decent-sized screen for a netbook. I'm sure once the rest of the ION netbooks trickle out I could get a slightly better deal, but I just don't think it's worth the hassle if it comes down to trying to hunt around for just the right deal. I wish there was a review of the netbook somewhere, but I can't seem to find it! Mostly wondering about the battery life...
I thougght I read somewhere that the ION-LE can use hacked drivers to support DX-10? Something about it just being a software lock-out of features by NVIDIA. Or am I imagining that?
I have 2 rules when buying laptops/netbooks: 1. Minimise cost by choosing the least expensive software options. 2. Get as little RAM as possible - it's almost always cheaper to buy separately and upgrade yourself.
prestidigitator said:
I tried using HP EPP, also called up & mailed their sales folks and pleaded with them to let me buy it with XP and 3GB RAM since I did not want to pay the "Windows 7" tax of $50.
However, they shot me down. I politely told the rep that I was choosing another brand, and walked away.
Normally I would agree with you, but for the HP Mini 311, the RAM is built-in, soldered to the motherboard. There's an empty slot,so you can add 1 or 2gb if you want, but that adds to the weight. It may also have a slight effect on battery life, though it may also increase performance slightly if it runs in dual-channel mode.
Normally I would agree with you, but for the HP Mini 311, the RAM is built-in, soldered to the motherboard. There's an empty slot,so you can add 1 or 2gb if you want, but that adds to the weight. It may also have a slight effect on battery life, though it may also increase performance slightly if it runs in dual-channel mode.
WOW, I've never seen someone complain about the weight of RAM.
Normally I would agree with you, but for the HP Mini 311, the RAM is built-in, soldered to the motherboard. There's an empty slot,so you can add 1 or 2gb if you want, but that adds to the weight. It may also have a slight effect on battery life, though it may also increase performance slightly if it runs in dual-channel mode.
Maybe things have changed, but don't you have the match up the SODIMM's up pretty well to get it to run in dual-channel mode? I.e. they need to match exactly in speed and latency timings, etc so to be safe you should buy the same make and model?
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