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CIT Group Inc's bankruptcy filing, while long expected, could still trigger a financing crunch for many of the hundreds of thousands of small businesses it finances.
CIT filed for bankruptcy protection on Sunday, and said its creditors have already approved the century-old commercial lender's reorganization plan.

But the company's long-term prospects are uncertain and the bankruptcy could leave more than one million small and medium-sized businesses looking for another source of funding, lawyers said.


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Well this won't be good for the stock market tomorrow.


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Just to make it clear for the numerous people who dont read carefully, CIT IS DIFFERENT THAN CITI


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If you log into Citi bank account, it informs you in the headlines that:

11/01/09 - 17:05 - CIT files for bankruptcy
11/01/09 - 16:28 - CIT files for bankruptcy

Great, now I feel very confident banking here.


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jburger said:If you log into Citi bank account, it informs you in the headlines that:

11/01/09 - 17:05 - CIT files for bankruptcy
11/01/09 - 16:28 - CIT files for bankruptcy

Great, now I feel very confident banking here.

I feel very confident on your ability to read.


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Take more of my paycheck and do a Government bailout please. This company made stupid decisions so we definitely need to keep them operating.


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brettdoyle said:Take more of my paycheck and do a Government bailout please. This company made stupid decisions so we definitely need to keep them operating.

Nevermind... the money has already been flushed down the toilet.

One loser from a bankruptcy would be the U.S. Treasury. Late last year it injected $2.3 billion of funds from the Troubled Asset Relief Program ... The government investment is likely to be wiped out ...

Message edited by: brettdoyle on 2009-11-01 18:07:16 CST
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Everyone knew that CIT was going to file for bankruptcy. Just like Fannie and Freddie will eventually file for bankruptcy. Rightly or wrongly, the government spent the money to make sure that all of these bankruptcies were done in an orderly manner. Was it worth it? Who knows. Was the government successful in adverting complete and total chaos in the financial system? It seems like it.


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Damn. Shoulda shorted on Friday.


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Go short FNM or FRE. It's the same thing. Or AIG. The problem is that you could get caught in a short squeeze and forced to cover before they go to 0. All of 3 of those will go to 0... the question is how long and whether you get a pop between now and then.


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tripleB said:Well this won't be good for the stock market tomorrow.

Be greedy when others are fearful. Stocks on sale tomorrow!


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Look what happened to GM stock after bankruptcy.


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comptalk said:Damn. Shoulda shorted on Friday.

This is why most retail investors lose money. Futures are up, significantly. No one cares about CIT group filing for bankruptcy except all of those morons who were buying CIT common and the bondholders. Everyone knew CIT was going to 0... just like FNM, FRE, AIG, etc.

As for GM, the common went to 0 when it went bankrupt. That's generally how it works.


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How do I profit from this?


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kantscholar said:
As for GM, the common went to 0 when it went bankrupt.

It should have, but oddly it didn't: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MTLQQ.PK&t=6m&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=


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walletfart said:Look what happened to GM stock after bankruptcy.

You do realize that the new GM is not a publicly held company, right?


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lgyeresi said:walletfart said:Look what happened to GM stock after bankruptcy.

You do realize that the new GM is not a publicly held company, right?

In the weeks following the initial BK filing, the old GM stock went all over the place, including up well over the initial price at BK.

Although I wouldn't put my bet on it, the stock price could go all over the place before settling at 0.

EDIT: Ok, somehow it is still at 53 cents. Wow.

Message edited by: sscripko on 2009-11-01 21:38:56 CST
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kantscholar said:comptalk said:Damn. Shoulda shorted on Friday.

This is why most retail investors lose money. Futures are up, significantly. No one cares about CIT group filing for bankruptcy except all of those morons who were buying CIT common and the bondholders. Everyone knew CIT was going to 0... just like FNM, FRE, AIG, etc.

As for GM, the common went to 0 when it went bankrupt. That's generally how it works.
Maybe it was up more earlier, but I am looking at S&P500 only up 5 points. More importantly, in the stock markets that are open for trading now, Neikei, Hangseng and Shanghai, indexes are showing heavy losses. But they could be just the catching up with the US market's move on Friday. So if the futures don't go down further, you seem to be correct in saying the CIT bankruptcy was "priced in".


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I wonder how this will affect Dell since CIT was the backer of their consumer / business credit cards and business leasing?


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